{"id":835,"date":"2010-12-10T23:10:38","date_gmt":"2010-12-10T13:40:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/?p=835"},"modified":"2013-03-25T09:25:06","modified_gmt":"2013-03-24T23:55:06","slug":"how-to-use-a-belkin-f5u409f5u409-cu-usb-to-pda-serial-converter-in-visawindows-7-64bit-mac-osx-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/posts\/how-to-use-a-belkin-f5u409f5u409-cu-usb-to-pda-serial-converter-in-visawindows-7-64bit-mac-osx-10","title":{"rendered":"Solution: Belkin F5U409 USB to Serial Converter in 64bit Windows 7\/Vista\/Mac OSX 10"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/images\/\/2010\/12\/Belkin-F5U4091.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"211\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-837\" title=\"Belkin-F5U4091\" alt=\"&quot;The\" src=\"http:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/images\/\/2010\/12\/Belkin-F5U4091-300x211.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/images\/2010\/12\/Belkin-F5U4091-300x211.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/images\/2010\/12\/Belkin-F5U4091.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>(Note: Mac Users may want to skip to the bottom)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>After a number of years my old Windows Vista 32 bit installation was a little worse for ware. Having a laptop capible of 64 bit I decided to upgrade to Window 7 64 bit. After a fresh install of Windows 7, I began the process of installing drivers for the hardware I had. It wasn&#8217;t until I came to my trusty Belkin USB to Serial (RS232) converter, aka PDA adapter that I encountered a problem.<\/p>\n<p>After visiting <a href=\"http:\/\/www.belkin.com\/\">Belkin<\/a>&#8216;s website and looking up the driver page for the convertor, I discovered that Belkin didn&#8217;t support both Vista 64bit and Windows 7 64 bit.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s the details from their knowledge base page (can&#8217;t link it due to thier website design):<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;<strong>Is the F5U409 USB PDA Adapter compatible with vista 64 bit?<\/strong><br \/> No, this product is not compatible with vista 64 bit. It is compatible with Vista 32 bit computers. We do however have a similar adapter which is compatible with Vista 64 bit, you can use part F5U257 (USB-to-Serial Adapter).&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What a rip off? Not only doesn&#8217;t Belkin support their old hardware they try and get me to buy their new hardware!<\/p>\n<p>Being a computer system administrator and programmer by trade, I knew there would be no physical reason the device would not work under a 64 bit operating system. It was down to Belkin not wanting to spend the time or money to update the driver. In most cases, it would simply be a recompilation of the existing driver.<\/p>\n<p>Hence I began searching to see if anyone had got the device working. There was lots of webpages\/forum posts about how people failed. Lots of posts indicating it&#8217;s not supported, even an<a href=\"http:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/windows\/compatibility\/windows-7\/en-us\/Details.aspx?type=Hardware&amp;p=Belkin%20F5U409-CU%20USB%20PDA%20Ethernet%20Adapter&amp;v=Belkin&amp;uid=&amp;pf=0&amp;pi=4&amp;c=Networking&amp;sc=Ethernet%20Adapters&amp;os=64-bit\"> official microsoft page<\/a> indicating it&#8217;s not supported under Microsoft Windows 7. Then there were a few posts indicating to try various different drivers, most seem to relate to either the Prolific or FTDI chip\/chipset which apparently exists on other models of the Belkin adaptors (F5U109?) and with other USB\/RS232 converters and hence works with some other drivers. But sadly nothing about the Belkin F5U409 adaptor.<\/p>\n<p>Hence I figured enough is enough. I had previously found a <a href=\"http:\/\/forums.radioreference.com\/uniden-scanners\/165600-belkin-f5u109-usb-serial-adapter.html\">website<\/a> where someone had pulled the adaptor apart to determine if the chipset was an FTDI chipset. Sadly it wasn&#8217;t it was instead a Philips P87C52X2BA\u00a0 microcontroller seemed to be used. Hence I did a lot of searching for that particular chip in <a href=\"http:\/\/google.com\">google<\/a>, all with no luck. Eventually I thought hmm, lets just see if we can find another USB232 converter that used a Philips chip.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_838\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/images\/\/2010\/12\/U232-P91234.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-838\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-838\" title=\"U232-P91234\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/images\/\/2010\/12\/U232-P91234-300x231.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"231\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/images\/2010\/12\/U232-P91234-300x231.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.clearchain.com\/blog\/images\/2010\/12\/U232-P91234.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-838\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Magic Control Technologies U232-P9 Adaptor<\/p><\/div>\n<p>It was then that I found the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.serialgear.com\/1-Port-Serial-USB-U232-P9.html\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; color: #666666;\">MCT U232-P9 DB-9 Serial Adapter High Speed 230K USB SERIAL RS-232<\/span><\/a>. This device used the &#8220;<span style=\"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;\">P87C52 &#8211; 80C51 8-bit microcontroller and PDIUSBD12 made by NXP Semiconductors founded by Philips.&#8221; <\/span>It was perfect the chip matched. I hence spent quite a while working out who MCT were. It turns out that MCT stands for Magic Control Technologies. On the MCT website, on their <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mct-us.com\/driver.html\">driver page<\/a> they had drivers for their USB\/Serial convertor and they support Visa, Windows 7, 32bit &amp; 64bit. So I downloaded the driver<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mct-us.com\/downloadfiles\/U232-13.2.98.130315.zip\"> U232-P9 Driver<\/a>.(<a href=\"http:\/\/clearchain.com\/downloads\/\">Click Here for a Local Mirror<\/a> incase MCT remove it)<\/p>\n<p>I then crossed my fingers and installed it. After a quick reboot I plugged in my Belking F5U409 adaptor and it was detected! A quick check. <strong>It worked!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So to Belkin who wanted to force me to buy yet another product &#8211; support your products!<\/p>\n<p>As a bit of an ironic twist, I later began cleaning up the original installed Belkin driver (I had tried the Vista 32bit version with no success). It was then that I discovered that Belkin don&#8217;t even write their own drivers but use Magic Control Technologies drivers!\u00a0 (You can find this by right clicking on the u2sxp.sys file that Belkin installs to <span style=\"font-family: courier new,courier;\">C:\\Program Files(x86)\\Belkin\\F5U409\\Driver\\u2sxp.sys<\/span> and clicking the details tab). So not only are they not updating the drivers, they didn&#8217;t write them in the first place!<\/p>\n<p>Finally, if your a Mac OSX 10 user you might also want to check the Magic Control Technologies <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mct-us.com\/driver.html\">driver page <\/a>as drivers exist for you as well &#8211; shame on you Belkin.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mct-us.com\/driver.html\"><br \/> <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This article details how to use a Belkin FSU409 USB to Serial Converter under Windows Vista\/Windows 7 64bit<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[344,331,330,329,334,333,335,279,332,276,15,328],"class_list":["post-835","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-computers","tag-64-bit","tag-64bit","tag-belkin","tag-converter","tag-mct","tag-osx-10","tag-philips","tag-serial","tag-unsupported","tag-usb","tag-vista","tag-windows-7"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - 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